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Posts: 10503
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:06 am
I really wish we could go just 4 years without an election.
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Posts: 33691
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:09 am
Starting to look like Italy...
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Posts: 35279
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:24 am
Naw, we have better grapes.
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Posts: 1092
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:30 am
Yes it would be nice if they would quit worrying about them selves and start to run this country , as that is what they are paid to do Liberals grow up and get over it 
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Wada
CKA Elite
Posts: 3355
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:17 am
The Liberals are simply trying to protect us all from these guys, eh! 
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Posts: 7580
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:35 am
This government is not and has not been working.. they have done nothing and only make false promises when harper's throne is in danger... bring it on!
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Mukluk
Forum Junkie
Posts: 718
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:55 am
kenmore kenmore: This government is not and has not been working.. they have done nothing and only make false promises when harper's throne is in danger... bring it on! I am not sure what to expect in 12 months, regardless of who is in power. It is bad enough in the states that they are almost continually in campaigning mode even with a 4 year cycle. Move that to a 12 month cycle and we simply become a rudderless ship that just happens to stay afloat out of pure luck. /m
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Posts: 4805
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:01 am
kenmore kenmore: This government is not and has not been working.. they have done nothing $1: Accomplishments of the Harper government.
1. Age of consent legislation – from 14 to 16 effective May 1, 2008 2.Agent Orange compensation package of $96 million –$20,000 to all veterans and civilians who lived within 5 kilometers of CFB Gagetown in N.B. between 1966 and 1967 3.Apology to Native people – by Government of Canada on June 11, 2008 for residential school abuses 4.Canada Employment Credit of $1000.00 5.Child Tax Credit ($2000 for every child under eighteen) 6.Chinese Head Tax Apology– by the government on June 22, 2006 7.Chinese immigrant provision of $20,000 to every individual and/or surviving spouses who paid the head tax plus $24 million towards an “historical recognition program” 8.Columbia Free Trade Agreement – signed at the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation meeting in Lima, November 21, 2008 9.Disability Savings Plan, part of the 2007 budget, it was fully implemented in December, 2008 10.Doer, Gary, former NDP Manitoba Premier, appointed – the Ambassador to the United States on August 28, 2009 11.Economic Development Agency for Southern Ontario – officially launched on August 13th, 2009 in Kitchener- Waterloo, Canada’s fifth such regional organization 12.European Free Trade Association – Canada Agreement – signed on July 2, 2009 — between Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland 13.First time buyers tax credit – any Canadian who purchases a first property after January 27, 2009, will be eligible for a $5,000 non-refundable income tax credit. 14.Food Labelling Initiative – to clarify and modernize labelling on food products, including “Product of Canada” and “Made in Canada” claims 15.GIS — Guaranteed Income Supplement Improvements – for seniors, changed to allow for higher earned income 16.GST — Goods & services tax cut from 7% to 6% and then to 5% 17.Hep C compensation redressed – for latest court rulings that clear the way for national $1 billion package 18.Income splitting for Canadian seniors and pensioners 19.Indian Residential School Settlement Agreement 20.Jordan Free Trade Agreement – signed by Canadian and Jordanian government officials and reported on June 28, 2009 21.Kid’s sport tax credit (up to $500 per child) 22.Kuwait Foreign Investment Promotion & Protection Agreement (FIPA) — completed in April 2009 23.Land Claim Agreements – five-point plan for Aboriginal Canadians — to compare the years the Conservatives have been in power to previous years 24.Lobbying Act – passed July 2, 2008 25.Manley Report approved (Report) 26.Mental Health Commission of Canada – established and incorporated as a non-profit corporation in March of 2007 27.Northern Regional Development Economic Agency – announced by Prime Minister Stephen Harper on Tuesday, August 18th, 2009 in Iqaluit, Nunavut 28.Nunavik Inuit Land Claims Agreement 29.Ombudsman for Victims of Crime established 30.Panama-Canada Free Trade Agreement – signed in Panama on Tuesday, August 11th, 2009 (but still to be ratified by Parliament) 31.Peru – Canada Free Trade Agreement – adopted by Parliament June 18, 2009 32.Poland — Youth Mobility Agreement signed on July 14, 2008 that allows youth from either country to work and travel for up to one year 33.Public transit tax credits 34.Quebecois as a nation – a motion to confirm Quebec within a united Canada 35.Savings Account that is tax free 36.Softwood Lumber Agreement (Bill C-24) 37.Street racing crack down 38.Students exempted from taxation for scholarships, bursaries and fellowships 39.Tackling Violent Crime Act 40.Taxpayers Bill of Rights 41.Taxpayers Ombudsman 42.Ukrainian & Eastern European immigrants – $10 million to educate Canadians about the internment in Canadian work camps during WWI 43.Universal Child Care Benefit – $1,200.00 per year for every child under age six 
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Posts: 1098
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:02 am
$1: "Let me be clear: the Liberal Party would not agree to a coalition. In January we did not support a coalition, and we do not support a coalition today or tomorrow," Ignatieff said.
He added that the party will seek support and consensus of "partners" but will not sign a formal coalition deal. He said he does not believe Canadians are in favour of a coalition government. Translation. He would find out what it would take to get the NDP and Bloc on side to support an Iggy government. The Dips would want a ceiling on credit card interest and the Bloc bringing federally regulated industries under Bill 101. Dr Ig would agree to both.
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ridenrain
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:20 am
It's been the longest, best running minority in the history of Canada. The only reason Iggy's doing this is so he dosen't look like Dion anymore.
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ASLplease
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Posts: 4183
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:26 am
$1: "Let me be clear: the Liberal Party would not agree to a coalition. In January we did not support a coalition, and we do not support a coalition today or tomorrow," Ignatieff said. They were just a pack a wolves that growled when someone threatened to take away their dog dish. The fact that they growled together with the NDP and the Blog can be whitewashed over time.
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ridenrain
CKA Uber
Posts: 22594
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:28 am
It was Iggy who needed to shead the stink of Dion who's forcing this election.
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Posts: 1804
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:38 pm
llama66 llama66: I really wish we could go just 4 years without an election. No minority government has ever lasted 4 years. The voters would have to elect a majority government for the frequent elections to stop. We have seen the voters will not elect a Conservative majority, at least not under Harper, so...
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Posts: 1804
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:03 pm
The coalition came about when Harper attempted to pull out his stunt of calling everything a confidence vote. You can't do that, and the Canadian constitution has a system specifically to prevent that: if a confidence vote is called soon after an election, the Governor General is required to ask the leader of the official opposition if he/she can form a coalition rather than calling another election. Forming a coalition is not expected, rather this is supposed to be the stick to prevent the Prime Minister from calling everything a confidence vote. But Harper tried anyway, and his bluff was called. Stéphane Dion did what was necessary; he formed a coalition before even talking to the Governor General and before the confidence vote was held. That meant as soon as Parliament voted non-confidence, Stéphane Dion would be Prime Minister. By the way, the coalition was Liberal and NDP parties, they got the Bloc to say they would support the coalition for the purpose of talking to the Governor General, and the Bloc would not vote non-confidence in the coalition for 6 months, but the Bloc was never part of the coalition.
All that was Stéphane Dion's work, and it was necessary because Stephen Harper tried to call a confidence voter in the first week that parliament sat after the election. Harper screwed up, Dion spanked him. Michael Ignatieff was never part of that. When Michael Ignatieff was appointed interim leader he had to say he would support the coalition, or he would not have been given the interim leadership. The coalition was the only thing preventing Harper from pulling constant confidence vote threats. But Michael Ignatieff never liked the coalition, and frankly the rest of the Liberal party didn't like it either; it was a necessity that Harper forced upon us. But just to put a fine point on this: Dion got us into the coalition, Ignatieff got us out.
I'm surprised the Conservative TV ads focus on that. The coalition is dead. Jack Layton is negotiating a deal with Harper to get the NDP to vote against non-confidence, to keep the Conservatives in government. The coalition was created because Harper screwed up. Obsessing over the coalition now simply shows desperation.
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