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Posts: 23084
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:20 pm
And yet Harper is made a deal with them to keep his government alive...hmmm?
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:05 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: And yet Harper is made a deal with them to keep his government alive...hmmm? what was the deal?
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Wada
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:09 pm
EI reform that took a year to get, even on the fast track. 
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:27 pm
Wada Wada: EI reform that took a year to get, even on the fast track.  I thought that's what the Liberals wanted yet they voted against it. So is there a signed paper for this new coalition between the Conservatives, NDP and the Bloc? Like this one. 
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Posts: 23084
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:41 pm
The same deal he made with the NDP to support him. http://www.canadaka.net/link.php?id=49140Not much of a surprise given his 2004 letter to GG Clarkson; $1: Mr. Harper's 2004 letter to then-governor-general Adrienne Clarkson, which requested that she turn to him if Paul Martin's newly elected government were defeated in the Commons.
"We respectfully point out that the opposition parties, who together constitute a majority in the House, have been in close consultation. We believe that, should a request for dissolution arise this should give you cause, as constitutional practice has determined, to consult the opposition leaders and consider all of your options before exercising your constitutional authority," the 2004 letter stated. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... 724889.eceHe shown over and over he's just like all the other retards in Ottawa, more concerned with power than Canadians.
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:07 pm
It looks like nobody ever vote in favor of any legislation in the house from now on, ,unless they want to be accused of having a formal coalition.
We might as well just shut it down until we can get a majority government. Election after election .
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Posts: 23084
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:13 pm
Harper bitched and moaned about 'backroom deals' last fall and this summer, then went and did one himself. It's not wrong, but it does make him a hypocrite.
He's campaigned in the past that he's different than the other guys, that he's accountable, yet the second his time in office is threatened, he resorts to all the same tactics as the Liberals you spend so much time bitching about.
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ridenrain
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:30 pm
Agreement on a issue by issue basis, the way that minority government is supposed to work. I'm not seeing proof of huge deals or favors to buy the other parties ether, just good solid policy for all Canadians.
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:35 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: Harper bitched and moaned about 'backroom deals' last fall and this summer, then went and did one himself. It's not wrong, but it does make him a hypocrite. What backroom deal are you referring to, boot?
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:36 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: Harper bitched and moaned about 'backroom deals' last fall and this summer, then went and did one himself. It's not wrong, but it does make him a hypocrite.
He's campaigned in the past that he's different than the other guys, that he's accountable, yet the second his time in office is threatened, he resorts to all the same tactics as the Liberals you spend so much time bitching about. Back room deals Once again what the heck was the deal? I'm sure Harper wasn't too concerned about keeping the government alive for another month . If the opposition wants an election they can have it, but of course they don't really want one .
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Posts: 23084
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:56 am
The back room deal with the NDP for help on the EI bill. Harper and MacKay complained about the "NDP budget" back in 2005, but think nothing of using the NDP for exactly the same reason...to stay in power. $1: Bloc Leader Gilles Duceppe said today his MPs will support the ways and means motion if it includes the home renovation tax credit — and no poison pills. $1: There may be little lasting political damage for the NDP in voting for popular tax credits. Nor would it be difficult to back a new change to Employment Insurance proposed Monday by Human Resources Minister Diane Finley.
Under pressure from opposition parties to improve the EI system, Finley Monday announced plans to give laid-off "long-tenure" workers an extra 5 to 20 weeks of EI benefits, depending on their employment record. $1: The proposed changes to EI or temporary fix would cost about $937 million over two years and affect about 190,000 unemployed workers.
Finley said the proposed changes "would provide additional support to individuals who have worked and paid EI premiums for years and made limited use of the program."
These long-tenured workers would receive five to 20 weeks of full benefits while they look for jobs. http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/695415Sure sounds like Harper changed the bill on Monday to live just a little longer...just like Martin did in 2005 with his budget. That spells hypocrite no matter how you guys want to spin this.
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Posts: 1098
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:11 am
bootlegga bootlegga: Sure sounds like Harper changed the bill on Monday to live just a little longer...just like Martin did in 2005 with his budget.
That spells hypocrite no matter how you guys want to spin this. Or, depending on one's perspective, smart politics. He has roped Jolly Jack in who has agreed to support the CPC until the EI bill is passed. Harper could be around for a while. He and Layton both got what they wanted - no election.
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Posts: 23084
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:30 am
Oh, that's right, I forgot that when the Conservatives pull shit like this, it's "smart politics", but when a Liberal does it, it's a deal with socialists... 
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:45 am
bootlegga bootlegga: Oh, that's right, I forgot that when the Conservatives pull shit like this, it's "smart politics", but when a Liberal does it, it's a deal with socialists...  Politics is the art of the possible. Smart politics is whatever you can get away with. And in this case it benefits both the CPC as well as the NDP.
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ASLplease
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:49 am
If the same group tends to accuse Harper of not working with the opposition, and now they are accusing him of changing a bill.
Wouldn't that be just as hypocritical or non-hypocritical as Harper's actions?
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