EyeBrock EyeBrock:
The Libs have gone very quiet on CKA.
Disconcerting.
Well Eyebrock there is a good explanation. They have either been banned, left the site for said reasons, or decided to post less then they used to.
Streaker, Lily, and Avro, were banned. As a consequence Hurley left. That was significant posting right there. Zip, Xerxes, and Boots decided they were going to stay but post less and I've been gone on account of taking umbrage to being called a wife beater. I'll endeavor to compensate.
First off Iggy hasn't been the huge disappointment simply because he has yet to shine in an election which is where he will. He is slumping because he hasn't released any tangible platform that voters will gravitate to. That however is extremely explainable. Last election Harper released no platform. Nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada. He spent the entire election attacking everybody elses platform and claiming they would all increase taxes by a large margin
and run huge deficits (irony anyone?). Since he released nothing in the least tangible Dion and the rest could only defend there own and claim Harper was underestimating the economy. They were dead right of course but the voting public as a group is dumb and the Libs/NDP were proven right.
Iggy is playing it smart by not tipping his hand unless an election is certian and he is savvy enough to know that polls can swing back just as easily as they swung away. Unlike Dion he won't shy away from mud slinging and he will attack the cons with every misstep, broken promise, and of course his massive deficit which us online guys know all about but the public actually doesn't as much as we think.
Enough of that though. Lets put things in perspective. Iggy isn't polling very well but lets re-examine the numbers and the truth behind them.
1997 (Lib majority)
Libs 38.5
Reform 19.4
Bloc 10.7
NDP 11.1
PC 18.8
Greens 0.43
Note "right" parties polling at 38%
2000 election: (Lib majority)
Libs 40.9
CA 25.5
Bloc 10.7
NDP 8.5
PC 12.2
Greens 0.8
Note that the "right" parties polling at around 38%.
2004 (Lib minority)
Libs 36.7
CPC 29.6
Bloc 12.4
NDP 15.7
Green
4.29Note "right" party polling at 30% The untie the right campaign was bitter and it pissed people off and they either stayed home or voted in protest.
Also note that Harper lost this election after 2 years at the helm. Did people claim the CPC was a failed experiment? Nope. Did they shitcan Harper? Nope.
2006 (CPC minority)
Lib 30.2
CPC 36.3
Bloc 10.5
NDP 17.5
Green 4.5
Note the CPC polling a little less then 38%
With the Libs currently polling between 27-30% its not an apocalypse is it? They still have more support and more seats then the Reform retards and Alliance and they have never been reduced to 2 seats have they? Its a joke that so many cons are now laughing because the Libs haven't got a majority slam dunk in just 2 short years of loosing especially since its less time then it took Harper to win a minority.
Does that put things a bit better into perspective?
threehundredeight.com does a great analysis job. They report all polls and factor in seat distribution and they still report the Libs getting at least 105 seats despite dismal polling and that the Libs and NDP will have more or damn near depending on the daily polls. They have been showing that the CPC or a "right wing conservative party(s)" plateaus at 38%. Only the "red tory" PCs of the chin polled above that but we are told by cons on this forum that he was a lib in disguise anyway. Harper has never really polled above this number much at all. Interesting eh?
What does that say about Harper that he still isn't going to win a majority? Lets now examine the reality of the cons winning. You (and others) once remarked that either Harper or Iggy means a "conservative" in office. Can you really say that?
Look at what Harper has done. He has actually increased "big government". His own privy council is bleeding money and he is running the largest deficit ever. So much for fiscal conservatism. He has reneged on many key military promises and thats not even dealing with all the shite about senators, accountibility, partisan ship, porking, pandering, and just about everything he bitched about.
Whats worse is that he has set the conditions in motion ripe for the military to get cut again. The public won't tolerate cuts anywhere else and the country cannot tolerate massive sustained deficits. Of course that will get blamed on the Libs when they are tasked with erasing that deficit yet again.
You guys were saying that you get a conservative into office regardless of Iggy or Harper winning but the NDPers like Rev were claiming they managed to get the funding they wanted with the deficit being blamed on the CPC.
Now the con supporters here will claim it would all be different if we had a con majority but do you know what that really means?
1) It means that Canada's so called recovery was due to the socialist policies forced on Harper, oh and that he was a pussy for giving in.
2) We should elect the bloody NDP since they had the right idea.
3) A con majority would quite easily renege on its promises to not engineer a conservative social agenda (anti SSM, abortion, etc).
I'd say Canada understands that reality quite well which is why Harper (unlike the socially liberal red tories) don't poll in majority terrain.
The Libs are polling bad yes but the left vote is split between not 2 but 3 parties against a untied right. They are still polling much better then any of the right parties when they were divided.
Ahhh! Life is just a little bit more boring without you.
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