[RUEZ]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

RUEZ RUEZ:

I'd love to see the left pay for sending us back to the polls.

Uh huh. And the government is blameless for bringing forth a confidence motion it couldn't have possibly passed.

Let's look at it from a PR standpoint. The opposition finally stood up for something, that just happens to be their subsidy from the government. If they send us back to the polls how do you think that's going to play out in the media. The only thing the left is really firmly behind is their free money.

[hurley_108]

RUEZ RUEZ:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

RUEZ RUEZ:

I'd love to see the left pay for sending us back to the polls.

Uh huh. And the government is blameless for bringing forth a confidence motion it couldn't have possibly passed.

Let's look at it from a PR standpoint. The opposition finally stood up for something, that just happens to be their subsidy from the government. If they send us back to the polls how do you think that's going to play out in the media. The only thing the left is really firmly behind is their free money.

Let's look at it from the opposite PR standpoint. Harper calls a snap election because he "needs a mandate to deal with the most serious economic crisis in decades," or something like that. We're looking at a deficit of some 3 billion dollars or so, by conservative estimates, next year. Harper decides that one of the first steps he's going to take is to trim off 1% of that by axing the lifeline of his opponents. He's not going to announce a stimulus package. He's not going to stick to low-contention cuts. He's going to right for the jugular of the opposition, and otherwise basically ignore the crisis he just sent us to the polls to deal with. How do you think that's going to play out in the media? The only thing the Conservatives are firmly behind is crushing their opponents.

[RUEZ]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

The only thing the Conservatives are firmly behind is crushing their opponents.

I hope they do.

[hurley_108]

RUEZ RUEZ:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

The only thing the Conservatives are firmly behind is crushing their opponents.

I hope they do.

Lemme put it to you this way. Which would you rather see the Conservatives do:

A stimulus package for the forest industry, or
Crush the Liberals out of existence?

Either or.

[RUEZ]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

RUEZ RUEZ:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

The only thing the Conservatives are firmly behind is crushing their opponents.

I hope they do.

Lemme put it to you this way. Which would you rather see the Conservatives do:

A stimulus package for the forest industry, or
Crush the Liberals out of existence?

Either or.

I don't want either. There is obviously a place for opposition in the government. Otherwise we have a dictatorship. Forestry companies don't deserve government money either. Unions have made manufacturing in Canada unaffordable when sales slow. The only thing I really want the government to do is keep us in surpluses.

[ShepherdsDog]

Why are Liberal coffers in such poor shape that they have to depend on public funds so heavily? ....oh yeah, they aren't in power and can't get kickbacks from their friends.

[hurley_108]

RUEZ RUEZ:

I don't want either. There is obviously a place for opposition in the government. Otherwise we have a dictatorship. Forestry companies don't deserve government money either. Unions have made manufacturing in Canada unaffordable when sales slow. The only thing I really want the government to do is keep us in surpluses.

Manufacturing in the first world is unaffordable when sales slow, unions or no. Unions in the auto sector have, though, made it worse on themselves, I agree.

But a government that isn't willing to go into deficit spending at times of economic downturn isn't doing its job. But they also aren't doing their job if they get into the habit of it when times are good.

[hurley_108]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Why are Liberal coffers in such poor shape that they have to depend on public funds so heavily? ....oh yeah, they aren't in power and can't get kickbacks from their friends.

No, because Chretien banned corporate and union donations, brought in the subsidy to replace them, and the Liberal party hasn't caught up to the Conservatives in small individual donations. But they just got one hell of a kick in their complacency. Maybe they'll turn it around. Who knows.

[Apollo]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Why are Liberal coffers in such poor shape that they have to depend on public funds so heavily? ....oh yeah, they aren't in power and can't get kickbacks from their friends.

No, because Chretien banned corporate and union donations, brought in the subsidy to replace them, and the Liberal party hasn't caught up to the Conservatives in small individual donations. But they just got one hell of a kick in their complacency. Maybe they'll turn it around. Who knows.

Yet I was told that the Conservatives were in the back pockets of big business.

Tell me the left wasn't lying to me.

[hwacker]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Why are Liberal coffers in such poor shape that they have to depend on public funds so heavily? ....oh yeah, they aren't in power and can't get kickbacks from their friends.

They are so poor because liberals are cheap fucks, they are under the opinion that the Gov't pays for everything that includes the liberal party. No wonder they stole from us for years. I can just imagine the amount of money they stole for decades when nobody was on to them.

I wouldn’t trust a liberal with my muslim sister in-law if I had one.

And you know how much I like muslims.

[ShepherdsDog]

El Hwacker we missed you at friday prayers.

[Apollo]

Liberals are lazy by their very nature. Sit back and let the government take care of me.

[StuntmanMike]

$1:

Hurley108:

Even if they do, and we go to another election, it's up to the people, isn't it, to render judgement. I have no problem voting again, and I won't vote Conservative.

I'm sure you won't. But then again, you never have voted Conservative. You're an NDP'r.

I doubt very much the CPC war room is worried about you. What they are very worried about is how this will play out among the average, middle class voter in the 905, rural voters in Quebec, and a few questionable seats in BC.

[kenmore]

Actually they are talking about keeping Flaherty even with a coalition.. dont forget the torys would still be part of the house and have a roll to play.. I think that a coalition would be better than wasting money on an election that would probably end up in the same boat.. it would work better for all Canadians.

[Scape]

StuntmanMike StuntmanMike:

I doubt very much the CPC war room is worried about you. What they are very worried about is how this will play out among the average, middle class voter in the 905, rural voters in Quebec, and a few questionable seats in BC.

Exactly such as places like Campbell river or Oshawa that NEED help NOW and were given a political game instead.

Impact of B.C. forestry strike deepens with lockout, layoffs

GM to cut 1,200 jobs in Oshawa