[martin14]

The government of Canada has not overlooked anything, it has been waiting
for the US to decide what to do with their criminal.

The rest of your post is opinion only, once again


I will say ..


" This is what the trial will determine "

[Proculation]

Seriously desertdude, why are you so pro-islamist and even have a pro-terrorist leaning ? That's troubling. Almost all your posts are bashing Canadian and USA policies and advocating the great virtue of Islam and everyone who follows that doctrine, even if they are terrorists. I hope you stay in Dubai.

[EyeBrock]

DD,

Khadr is in a foriegn detention centre for things he did or allegedly did against those foreign nationals.

Until he has been tried this is a matter for the Yanks. It's pretty plain really.

[desertdude]

Where I have here supported terrorism, Islamists or bashed Canada and the US ?

You might see me as somekind of pro Islamist or Terroist sympathiser because I don't ascribe to the common Islamophobic view here. I don't blame anyone here for it but mostly disappointed that instead of looking at what your hear and see in the media is true and accurate or just more Anti Islam fear mongering and propaganda Again and again I've had to fight prejudices here and shed light on the issue that you cannot throw blanket judgements on over 1 billion people by the actions of a few loons.

Majority of the members are very well informed and seem well educated but when it comes to this issue a mob mentality arises ?

I don't see how you can say what you have said. I openly condemn acts of terroism, Worng is wrong no matter who does it or where he does it. fully support the ISAF forces in Afghanistan and against them leaving until the job is 100% done, spoken against my own country of which I am citizen of, and the one I live in ( which you won't understand is a big deal with Big brother watching you at every step and just might be putting my self in trouble by saying these things ) Critizied so called "Islamic " countries like Saudia and Iran. Infact I have said more things against these than Canada or the US or its policies.

And I hope you end up in a place like gitmo or worse Iran !

[EyeBrock]

The mob mentality comes from feeling like we are under siege and that our leaders are pandering to those that oppose our western civilisation DD.

Until voices like yours are the mainstream, the Jihadists and the fundamentalists will continue to do all the talking on behalf of Islam.

[Brenda]

$1:

And I hope you end up in a place like gitmo or worse Iran !

I assume you mean "I hope you DON'T end up ...

[desertdude]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

DD,

Khadr is in a foriegn detention centre for things he did or allegedly did against those foreign nationals.

Until he has been tried this is a matter for the Yanks. It's pretty plain really.

I know what I find disturbing is that holding in solitary and torturing a juvi in a place like gitmo for eight years without trial. It should have been taken care of and verdict, guilty or not guilty passed a long time back.

[desertdude]

Brenda Brenda:

$1:

And I hope you end up in a place like gitmo or worse Iran !

I assume you mean "I hope you DON'T end up ...

Your right, I dont,Just got a little carried away. Like I said I woulsn't wish that even on my worse enemy.

[EyeBrock]

desertdude desertdude:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

DD,

Khadr is in a foriegn detention centre for things he did or allegedly did against those foreign nationals.

Until he has been tried this is a matter for the Yanks. It's pretty plain really.

I know what I find disturbing is that holding in solitary and torturing a juvi in a place like gitmo for eight years without trial. It should have been taken care of and verdict, guilty or not guilty passed a long time back.

Really, I have no sympathy for Khadr. He and his family have actively opposed our way of life and sought allies with our enemies. His family were big chums of Osama and he actually lived in the same compound in Saudi so don't give me this 'poor tortured juvi' crap.

He is an enemy of Canada but he is a citizen. That should mean something to us even if it doesn't mean anything to him or his shit-head, treasonous family.

[desertdude]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

The mob mentality comes from feeling like we are under siege and that our leaders are pandering to those that oppose our western civilisation DD.

Until voices like yours are the mainstream, the Jihadists and the fundamentalists will continue to do all the talking on behalf of Islam.

That feeling of being under a seige has been created by your own media, Muslims worldwide and in your own countries are bending over backwards condemning this but these don't make the headlines or make it all. Just the crap that does, because it sells.

Just google for 30 seconds Muslims comdemn terrorism/9 11 or anything similar and see. But ofcourse thats boring and no one wants to hear that.

And the ones that do are mostly ignored or left for the back pages because they don't feed the bias.

http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

How come the CKA newsbot here never posts anything like this podcast here ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/outlook

Just saying man, everything is out there if you just look for it. In my view the media is THE strongest tool out there and both sides have manipulated it to no end for their own means.

[desertdude]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Really, I have no sympathy for Khadr. He and his family have actively opposed our way of life and sought allies with our enemies. His family were big chums of Osama and he actually lived in the same compound in Saudi so don't give me this 'poor tortured juvi' crap.

He is an enemy of Canada but he is a citizen. That should mean something to us even if it doesn't mean anything to him or his shit-head, treasonous family.

Again trying to be objective rather than emotional. Yes his family stayed with the Ladens but not in saudia but Afganistan and Omar was no more than 10 yr old at the time.

I can see why most have no sympathy in this situation because no one cares to see it emotionally rather than objectively. It was not someone who was living in Canada and choose to leave and join AL Qaida on his own accord or like the London bombers.

But a child without any choice who was taken to these places by his family and indoctrinated from a very early age. I don't see how me, you or anyone else would be any different in that situation.

I see his case as that of a child solider rather than a militant.

About his family I don't know much other than his elder brother who's story is very sketchy and dodgy and some one from being in gitmo ended up in Bosnia ?

I'll wait for the movie to come out

[Zipperfish]

commanderkai commanderkai:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

"Coldly executing"? From what I undestand of the allegations there was a firefight during which Omar Khadr's father was killed and Omar seriously wounded.

I'm talking about the 10 aid workers who were killed a few days ago, Zip.

current-events-f59/taliban-executed-10-medical-missionaries-one-by-one-t90961.html

My bad. Sorry. That indeed was cold.

[EyeBrock]

desertdude desertdude:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Really, I have no sympathy for Khadr. He and his family have actively opposed our way of life and sought allies with our enemies. His family were big chums of Osama and he actually lived in the same compound in Saudi so don't give me this 'poor tortured juvi' crap.

He is an enemy of Canada but he is a citizen. That should mean something to us even if it doesn't mean anything to him or his shit-head, treasonous family.

Again trying to be objective rather than emotional. Yes his family stayed with the Ladens but not in saudia but Afganistan and Omar was no more than 10 yr old at the time.

I can see why most have no sympathy in this situation because no one cares to see it emotionally rather than objectively. It was not someone who was living in Canada and choose to leave and join AL Qaida on his own accord or like the London bombers.

But a child without any choice who was taken to these places by his family and indoctrinated from a very early age. I don't see how me, you or anyone else would be any different in that situation.

I see his case as that of a child solider rather than a militant.

About his family I don't know much other than his elder brother who's story is very sketchy and dodgy and some one from being in gitmo ended up in Bosnia ?

I'll wait for the movie to come out

How about his father who was killed in a fire-fight by the Pakistanis after our then PM, Jean Chretien, personally intervened and got him out of a Pakistani jail.

I think you need to read up a bit more on this subject to find out why it is so contentious in Canada.

[Thanos]

Nits grow up to be lice. Not much simpler than that.

[kenmore]

desertdude desertdude:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

DD,

Khadr is in a foriegn detention centre for things he did or allegedly did against those foreign nationals.

Until he has been tried this is a matter for the Yanks. It's pretty plain really.

I know what I find disturbing is that holding in solitary and torturing a juvi in a place like gitmo for eight years without trial. It should have been taken care of and verdict, guilty or not guilty passed a long time back.

juvi my ass.. he is a terrorist and we know in the west that even kids are trained as terrorists and brain washed with anti west sentiment.. juvi my ass.. hang the prick...cut out his nuts and pour salt in his wounds.. what ever keep him out of Canada.. he can rot with the rats in gitmo... deserves it!