[EyeBrock]

Yea, maybe you think that but the Canadian public (bless 'em) don't share your views.

[DerbyX]

I'm sure you said that when the Liberals were winning majority after majority. You should note that the public apparently came around after a massive socialist spending spree. The public doesn't support a conservative POV then I guess.

3 cheers for socialism.

[EyeBrock]

Hip hip....

[CommanderSock]

Iggy lost a nut or two. But the cons still won't win a majority if elections were held now.

Canada shall remain indefinitely politically polarized.

[EyeBrock]

CommanderSock CommanderSock:

Iggy lost a nut or two. But the cons still won't win a majority if elections were held now.

Canada shall remain indefinitely politically polarized.

Probably true, but they are getting closer thanks to Iggy's ineptitude.

[gonavy47]

Derby X,you handed my ass to me via your crime stats!? You obviously didn't read my last post, or if you did, you had no answer for it. You provided nothing but your beliefs. So as far as asses goes, maybe you should pull your head out of yours!

[DerbyX]

gonavy47 gonavy47:

Derby X,you handed my ass to me via your crime stats!? You obviously didn't read my last post, or if you did, you had no answer for it. You provided nothing but your beliefs. So as far as asses goes, maybe you should pull your head out of yours!

I provided stats. You went and apparently changed your answer from crime is up from the 80s to crime is about the same. Face it. I destroyed you flippant crime comment and proved that we aren't suffering under an avalanche of crime due to a Liberal justice system.

[gonavy47]

Face it! You are delusional, because you actually believe your BS. The ruling party of the sixties and seventies was the liberals, who watched as the crime stats went up. Were you around then? Get your arguments from a book, I lived through it. They had a chance to do something about it, like limiting immigration from high-crime countries, but on no, come on in. More immigrants, more liberal votes. They could have made stiffer sentences, and automatic deportations for offenders that had not been granted citizenship. Gun crime became the problem it is today. What did the liberals do about it. The gun registry. I rest my case. If you think you won, go right ahead. I'll bring you a treat during visiting hours at the loony bin.

[DerbyX]

gonavy47 gonavy47:

Face it! You are delusional, because you actually believe your BS. The ruling party of the sixties and seventies was the liberals, who watched as the crime stats went up. Were you around then? Get your arguments from a book, I lived through it. They had a chance to do something about it, like limiting immigration from high-crime countries, but on no, come on in. More immigrants, more liberal votes. They could have made stiffer sentences, and automatic deportations for offenders that had not been granted citizenship. Gun crime became the problem it is today. What did the liberals do about it. The gun registry. I rest my case. If you think you won, go right ahead. I'll bring you a treat during visiting hours at the loony bin.

Yet again we see your failings. You claim my post was about my opinion but I posted evidence and all you have is your opinion. Crime went up every where including bastions of conservatism. The biggest factor however was the same population demographics but don't let facts interfere with your nonsense.

Now where is crime highest in Canada?

Is it much higher in the Conservative provinces then in the Liberal ones? Why yes it is.

$1:

The province with the lowest crime rate in 2006 was for the third straight year Ontario with 5,689 per 100,000, followed by Quebec with 5909 per 100,000.

I wonder what party is in power provincially? Speaking of provinces you failed entirely to take into account that the provinces also are in charge of dealing with crime.

The evidence shows that crime is not rising with Liberal governments then falling during conservative ones. Your belief that everything would be better if only we had a good ole conservative government is just that, your belief. No facts and no evidence. The US has a far harsher system then us yet our crime is much lower.

Next time research a few basic facts first before lest you expose your ignorance further.

[PluggyRug]

Iggy's an ok chap but an ok chap doth not a political leader make.

[ridenrain]

gonavy47 is right.
Worst murder rate ever in Toronto.
Liberal solution: gun bans & the boondoggle registry.
Conservative solution: More jails and hold criminals to account.

Say what you want..trounce out any lefty professor from the John Birch society you can but the public is sick and tired of the Liberal hug-a-thug mentality.

[gonavy47]

Keep on thinking what you think, I know you will. I wouldn't assume someone is ignorant if they lived through it, but then again, your arrogance lets you do just that. Keep on ranting, it must be really frustrating to not be in control of anything. By the way, you may have noticed that you keep having to defend Iggy. Ever wonder why? You may want to take off your liberal-red coloured glasses and actually have a look at the man, as a Canadian. Where has he been most of his life? What has he done for this country? You are never going to change my mind about the liberal party, no matter how many books you quote from. I have lived through their tenure. They had the same attitude towards crime as they did towards the military, and we all know what happened to the military in the seventies! It was almost destroyed by the ill-conceived unification plan. But then they didn't realize that, because of the rarity factor.(A liberal entering a recruiting office). A true rarity. So you go on believing what you do, hell one day you may even get elected as a liberal candidate. You are so well suited for that role. As for me, I'll just go about my business and foot the bill with my taxes. Oh, and vote conservative of course.

[DerbyX]

ridenrain ridenrain:

gonavy47 is right.
Worst murder rate ever in Toronto.
Liberal solution: gun bans & the boondoggle registry.
Conservative solution: More jails and hold criminals to account.

Say what you want..trounce out any lefty professor from the John Birch society you can but the public is sick and tired of the Liberal hug-a-thug mentality.

What a crock. Yet another strawman attack seeking to blame the Liberals for crime. Why is it that the Liberal provinces have much lower crime?

http://www2.macleans.ca/national-crime-rankings/
http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/03/04/the- ... rder-rate/

Toronto is 9th on the murder list below Conservative cities.
12th in Robbery.
19th in Aggravated assualt.
49th in Vehicular theft.
51st in Sexual assualt.

Seems to me the Liberal plan is working and the Conservative one is failing.
89th in B&E.

[DerbyX]

gonavy47 gonavy47:

Keep on thinking what you think, I know you will. I wouldn't assume someone is ignorant if they lived through it, but then again, your arrogance lets you do just that. Keep on ranting, it must be really frustrating to not be in control of anything. By the way, you may have noticed that you keep having to defend Iggy. Ever wonder why? You may want to take off your liberal-red coloured glasses and actually have a look at the man, as a Canadian. Where has he been most of his life? What has he done for this country? You are never going to change my mind about the liberal party, no matter how many books you quote from. I have lived through their tenure. They had the same attitude towards crime as they did towards the military, and we all know what happened to the military in the seventies! It was almost destroyed by the ill-conceived unification plan. But then they didn't realize that, because of the rarity factor.(A liberal entering a recruiting office). A true rarity. So you go on believing what you do, hell one day you may even get elected as a liberal candidate. You are so well suited for that role. As for me, I'll just go about my business and foot the bill with my taxes. Oh, and vote conservative of course.

Nope. I'm not defending Iggy here. I'm just pointing out your ignorance concerning crime and punishment.

[DerbyX]

Here are some more stats.
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidie ... 0b-eng.htm

$1:

The national crime rate has been relatively stable since 1999, with last year's 5% decrease offsetting a 6% hike in 2003. The crime rate declined during the 1990s, after rising throughout most of the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s.