VICTORIA � Oak Bay police are investigating after a man grabbed a seven-year-old boy by the collar and shook him after the child threw a rosehip berry at his car on Tuesday night.
If it was one of my boys when they were just kids and some stranger grabbed them and shook them, it would probably end up with him getting a ride in an ambulance followed by an extended stay in the hospital.
5' 10 + red sports car = short man's syndrome + micro-penis. A 7-year old is the only one he could threaten because everyone else older and bigger would be too much of a threat. Fuckin' prick.
"Gunnair" said Well, they were rose hips the kid was throwing...
Not to take this guy's side - but why is the untamed child unit throwing things at people's cars?
Not that I'd go off on a 7 year old, but I get pretty tired of my neighbourhood kids abusing my stuff too. It started with little things like that, then they were taking shit out of my yard, and just a couple weeks ago I came out to a half dozen wood screws drilled into my front tire.
At what point do you decide the parents will take no responsibility and mete your own discipline?
"DrCaleb" said Well, they were rose hips the kid was throwing...
Not to take this guy's side - but why is the untamed child unit throwing things at people's cars?
Not that I'd go off on a 7 year old, but I get pretty tired of my neighbourhood kids abusing my stuff too. It started with little things like that, then they were taking shit out of my yard, and just a couple weeks ago I came out to a half dozen wood screws drilled into my front tire.
At what point do you decide the parents will take no responsibility and mete your own discipline?
Sorry, but you don't go up to someone else's kid and shake them - hell, you don't even touch them!
That is assault no matter how you slice it.
You want to vent and yell at them, go ahead, but you will still probably look like a douche for yelling at them.
In you case, if their parents won't deal with them, you have to do it yourself. Put up a camera or two (Costco sells a set of three for about $200) and catch the little bastards putting screws in your tires/stealing stuff/etc. Then you tell the parents that you planning on calling the cops if they don't deal with their kids and pay for the damage. It's up to the parents to decide if they want little Johnny or Sally to have a record or not.
If they're under 12 they won't have a record since they won't be charged. If over, the record is sealed at 18. But still, involving the cops will scare the kids (if they're not too far gone) and shame the parents (if they're not too far gone.)
"andyt" said If they're under 12 they won't have a record since they won't be charged. If over, the record is sealed at 18. But still, involving the cops will scare the kids (if they're not too far gone) and shame the parents (if they're not too far gone.)
Have the laws changed?
A buddy got nailed shoplifting when he was 16 and he had to get a pardon after he turned 18 to get it removed from his record.
"bootlegga" said Well, they were rose hips the kid was throwing...
Not to take this guy's side - but why is the untamed child unit throwing things at people's cars?
Not that I'd go off on a 7 year old, but I get pretty tired of my neighbourhood kids abusing my stuff too. It started with little things like that, then they were taking shit out of my yard, and just a couple weeks ago I came out to a half dozen wood screws drilled into my front tire.
At what point do you decide the parents will take no responsibility and mete your own discipline?
Sorry, but you don't go up to someone else's kid and shake them - hell, you don't even touch them!
That is assault no matter how you slice it.
"DrCaleb" said Not that I'd go off on a 7 year old,
"bootlegga" said
In you case, if their parents won't deal with them, you have to do it yourself. Put up a camera or two (Costco sells a set of three for about $200) and catch the little bastards putting screws in your tires/stealing stuff/etc. Then you tell the parents that you planning on calling the cops if they don't deal with their kids and pay for the damage. It's up to the parents to decide if they want little Johnny or Sally to have a record or not.
Already installed. Bought a nice HD setup with PVR and 3TB drive from Newegg. And it's way past the point of the parents deciding.
Save it for the Judge. And I'm far from the only one.
One of the biggest differences between the youth justice system and the adult justice system is that the privacy of young persons is protected and their personal information is kept confidential. The YCJA restricts access to youth records to certain people. Those who may be allowed to see a youth record include:
A young person who is accused or found guilty of a crime, along with the young person�s lawyers, parents or guardians, and anyone else authorized by the court; Crown prosecutors; Judges, courts and review boards; Police officers involved in the case; Directors of correctional facilities where the youth serves a sentence; People involved in a youth justice conference; The victim; and Someone carrying out a criminal record check for a government job (municipal, provincial or federal).
How long a record remains open depends on the offence committed, the sentence imposed, and whether a young person commits another offence while the record is still open. The period during which a record is open is called the access period. Once the access period ends, youth records are sealed and/or destroyed. However, if someone over the age of 18 with an open youth record commits another crime, the youth record will become part of that person�s adult record.
Youth is found guilty and sentenced for indictable offence Five (5) years after the sentence has been completed (any subsequent offence will result in an extension)
Murder, manslaughter, attempted murder, or aggravated sexual assault Record may be retained indefinitely
Certain scheduled offences Record will be retained for an additional five (5) years
Youth is found guilty and receives an adult sentence Record is treated as an adult record, and the rules applicable to adult records apply.
So if your buddy was sentenced as an adult his record would have been permanent. But he would have had to do something pretty bad to be sentenced as an adult.
"DrCaleb" said Not that I'd go off on a 7 year old,
Oh, I saw that and know you're not foolish enough to touch someone else's kid, I was just saying that in general, it's not a good idea to do so.
That guy is lucky that their dad wasn't around - he probably would have had to crawl back to his car.
"DrCaleb" said
In you case, if their parents won't deal with them, you have to do it yourself. Put up a camera or two (Costco sells a set of three for about $200) and catch the little bastards putting screws in your tires/stealing stuff/etc. Then you tell the parents that you planning on calling the cops if they don't deal with their kids and pay for the damage. It's up to the parents to decide if they want little Johnny or Sally to have a record or not.
Already installed. Bought a nice HD setup with PVR and 3TB drive from Newegg. And it's way past the point of the parents deciding.
Save it for the Judge. And I'm far from the only one.
Well, they were rose hips the kid was throwing...
Not to take this guy's side - but why is the untamed child unit throwing things at people's cars?
Not that I'd go off on a 7 year old, but I get pretty tired of my neighbourhood kids abusing my stuff too. It started with little things like that, then they were taking shit out of my yard, and just a couple weeks ago I came out to a half dozen wood screws drilled into my front tire.
At what point do you decide the parents will take no responsibility and mete your own discipline?
Well, they were rose hips the kid was throwing...
Not to take this guy's side - but why is the untamed child unit throwing things at people's cars?
Not that I'd go off on a 7 year old, but I get pretty tired of my neighbourhood kids abusing my stuff too. It started with little things like that, then they were taking shit out of my yard, and just a couple weeks ago I came out to a half dozen wood screws drilled into my front tire.
At what point do you decide the parents will take no responsibility and mete your own discipline?
Sorry, but you don't go up to someone else's kid and shake them - hell, you don't even touch them!
That is assault no matter how you slice it.
You want to vent and yell at them, go ahead, but you will still probably look like a douche for yelling at them.
In you case, if their parents won't deal with them, you have to do it yourself. Put up a camera or two (Costco sells a set of three for about $200) and catch the little bastards putting screws in your tires/stealing stuff/etc. Then you tell the parents that you planning on calling the cops if they don't deal with their kids and pay for the damage. It's up to the parents to decide if they want little Johnny or Sally to have a record or not.
If they're under 12 they won't have a record since they won't be charged. If over, the record is sealed at 18. But still, involving the cops will scare the kids (if they're not too far gone) and shame the parents (if they're not too far gone.)
Have the laws changed?
A buddy got nailed shoplifting when he was 16 and he had to get a pardon after he turned 18 to get it removed from his record.
Well, they were rose hips the kid was throwing...
Not to take this guy's side - but why is the untamed child unit throwing things at people's cars?
Not that I'd go off on a 7 year old, but I get pretty tired of my neighbourhood kids abusing my stuff too. It started with little things like that, then they were taking shit out of my yard, and just a couple weeks ago I came out to a half dozen wood screws drilled into my front tire.
At what point do you decide the parents will take no responsibility and mete your own discipline?
Sorry, but you don't go up to someone else's kid and shake them - hell, you don't even touch them!
That is assault no matter how you slice it.
Not that I'd go off on a 7 year old,
In you case, if their parents won't deal with them, you have to do it yourself. Put up a camera or two (Costco sells a set of three for about $200) and catch the little bastards putting screws in your tires/stealing stuff/etc. Then you tell the parents that you planning on calling the cops if they don't deal with their kids and pay for the damage. It's up to the parents to decide if they want little Johnny or Sally to have a record or not.
Already installed. Bought a nice HD setup with PVR and 3TB drive from Newegg. And it's way past the point of the parents deciding.
Save it for the Judge.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.2708249
A young person who is accused or found guilty of a crime, along with the young person�s lawyers, parents or guardians, and anyone else authorized by the court;
Crown prosecutors;
Judges, courts and review boards;
Police officers involved in the case;
Directors of correctional facilities where the youth serves a sentence;
People involved in a youth justice conference;
The victim; and
Someone carrying out a criminal record check for a government job (municipal, provincial or federal).
How long a record remains open depends on the offence committed, the sentence imposed, and whether a young person commits another offence while the record is still open. The period during which a record is open is called the access period. Once the access period ends, youth records are sealed and/or destroyed. However, if someone over the age of 18 with an open youth record commits another crime, the youth record will become part of that person�s adult record.
Youth is found guilty and sentenced for indictable offence Five (5) years after the sentence has been completed (any subsequent offence will result in an extension)
Murder, manslaughter, attempted murder, or aggravated sexual assault Record may be retained indefinitely
Certain scheduled offences Record will be retained for an additional five (5) years
Youth is found guilty and receives an adult sentence Record is treated as an adult record, and the rules applicable to adult records apply.
So if your buddy was sentenced as an adult his record would have been permanent. But he would have had to do something pretty bad to be sentenced as an adult.
Not that I'd go off on a 7 year old,
Oh, I saw that and know you're not foolish enough to touch someone else's kid, I was just saying that in general, it's not a good idea to do so.
That guy is lucky that their dad wasn't around - he probably would have had to crawl back to his car.
In you case, if their parents won't deal with them, you have to do it yourself. Put up a camera or two (Costco sells a set of three for about $200) and catch the little bastards putting screws in your tires/stealing stuff/etc. Then you tell the parents that you planning on calling the cops if they don't deal with their kids and pay for the damage. It's up to the parents to decide if they want little Johnny or Sally to have a record or not.
Already installed. Bought a nice HD setup with PVR and 3TB drive from Newegg. And it's way past the point of the parents deciding.
Save it for the Judge.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.2708249
That guy is lucky that their dad wasn't around - he probably would have had to crawl back to his car.
If it were my kid, the guy would be in the trunk of his car till he could figure out how to get out, and the kid would be out behind the woodshed.
That guy is lucky that their dad wasn't around - he probably would have had to crawl back to his car.
If it were my kid, the guy would be in the trunk of his car till he could figure out how to get out, and the kid would be out behind the woodshed.
Yeah, that's about my thoughts on the matter too.