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Has 'Dracula's dungeon' been unearthed in Turke

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Has 'Dracula's dungeon' been unearthed in Turkey'


History | 207680 hits | Oct 02 12:40 am | Posted by: N_Fiddledog
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Two dungeons, tunnels and a military shelter were found at Tokat Castle, during restoration at the Turkish site. The Wallachian prince is said to have been held hostage at the castle from 1442.

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  1. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:43 am

  2. by Batsy2
    Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:40 pm
    Dracula used to live in Whitby on the North Yorkshire coast.

  3. by avatar martin14
    Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:39 pm
    "Batsy2" said
    Dracula used to live in Whitby on the North Yorkshire coast.



    I can see why he moved. :lol:

  4. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:22 pm
    Has 'Dracula's dungeon' been unearthed in Turkey'? If so, the Caliphate will want to put it back in service.

  5. by avatar martin14
    Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:29 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    Has 'Dracula's dungeon' been unearthed in Turkey'? If so, the Caliphate will want to put it back in service.



    Doubtful, they would probably destroy it, like they do everything else.

    Vlad was a good Christian boy who knew how to deal with Muslims.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Dragon

  6. by Thanos
    Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:38 pm
    I like the part in the video where the narrator goes out of his way to really emphasize the homosexual part of Mehmet II. Muslim AND a fag? There's no way this kind of thing won't play huge to the attendees at the Values Voters Conference. Talk about a double-win for anyone making a propaganda film with all the quality attached to it, just going by the narrator's voice alone, that one would expect from a home-made video filmed on a Beta tape from 1986.

    Yes, Vlad was awesome. Yes, the Turks more than deserved to have him put the hurt on them. No, modern politics are not an excuse to do a half-assed job on your own YouTube propaganda pieces. At least try to be semi-professional about your work, Ezra/Glen/Rush. :roll:

  7. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:56 pm
    "martin14" said
    Has 'Dracula's dungeon' been unearthed in Turkey'? If so, the Caliphate will want to put it back in service.



    Doubtful, they would probably destroy it, like they do everything else.

    Vlad was a good Christian boy who knew how to deal with Muslims.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Dragon

    Vlad was a man and product of his times. We can't use today's standards to judge him. This was a time of great turmoil in Europe. Constantinople, and with it the last Caesar had just fallen. The gates of Hell were opened, and Moslem hordes were over running southern and Europe. In the eyes of Christendom(popes, patriarchs, Bishops and Princes), everything and anything was allowable to stop their spread. Tepes and his contemporaries halted the invasion and allowed European civilization to blossom :idea:

    The narrator sucks in the video.....sounds like a pretentious little shit.

  8. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:50 pm
    I don't disagree with anything either of you two are saying about the narrator, but I still enjoy his videos. He does a series on the crusades. He has a Youtube channel.

    He is a pretentious little shit, and he is guilty of what Mohammedans call Kitman or the lie of omission, when endorsing it and illustrating how it's done in their manuals.

    For example with Vlad he points out how Vlad was a hero to his people. I've read other stuff where that becomes more complex - kind of true, and kind of not true - depending on where and when in Wallachia you were hearing the story. He didn't just impale followers of the caliphate.

    Personally though I like that Youtube guy's crusader vids. I can excuse the omissions on the grounds of limited space, and certainly he has a POV, but because I share it, it's not a problem for me. Basically Crusaders good - Mohammedans bad. Certainly the crusaders could be nasty, but my fearless narrator finds time to find the excuse for them. The wider atrocities of the Mohammedans do not get such consideration, and I consider that fair, because most places where they talk crusades it's the other way around. And I have heard the golden warrior, protector of the faithful, Mohammedan version. It's pretty hard not to. It's the contemporary one we get mass media.

    The thing is though, the narrator may be pretentious and biased, but what information he does offer is as well researched as anything else you're going to find mass media, and you are likely to know something you didn't by the time you finish one of his vids.

  9. by avatar bootlegga
    Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:49 pm
    "Batsy2" said
    Dracula used to live in Whitby on the North Yorkshire coast.


    I read somewhere he moved to Transylvania after he got tired of England's horrible weather! :lol:

  10. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:37 pm
    "N_Fiddledog" said
    I don't disagree with anything either of you two are saying about the narrator, but I still enjoy his videos. He does a series on the crusades. He has a Youtube channel.

    He is a pretentious little shit, and he is guilty of what Mohammedans call Kitman or the lie of omission, when endorsing it and illustrating how it's done in their manuals.

    For example with Vlad he points out how Vlad was a hero to his people. I've read other stuff where that becomes more complex - kind of true, and kind of not true - depending on where and when in Wallachia you were hearing the story. He didn't just impale followers of the caliphate.

    Personally though I like that Youtube guy's crusader vids. I can excuse the omissions on the grounds of limited space, and certainly he has a POV, but because I share it, it's not a problem for me. Basically Crusaders good - Mohammedans bad. Certainly the crusaders could be nasty, but my fearless narrator finds time to find the excuse for them. The wider atrocities of the Mohammedans do not get such consideration, and I consider that fair, because most places where they talk crusades it's the other way around. And I have heard the golden warrior, protector of the faithful, Mohammedan version. It's pretty hard not to. It's the contemporary one we get mass media.

    The thing is though, the narrator may be pretentious and biased, but what information he does offer is as well researched as anything else you're going to find mass media, and you are likely to know something you didn't by the time you finish one of his vids.


    One of the things that people tend to miss out on is that what was going on in this region wasn't a simple Muslim versus Christian fight. The Hungarians double crossed Tepes too, as they were Roman Catholic and he was a member of the Romanian Orthodox Church....an excommunicated heretic. There was no love lost between Rome and the Orthodox churches in the east, that still looked to the Patriarch of Constantinople as the true spiritual head of Christendom.



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